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    38 Super Automatic +P Loads

    A Tried-and-True Kimber 1911 Stainless II

    Kimber’s Stainless II 1911-style handgun includes a full-length guide rod and a 16-pound recoil spring. In classic 38 Super fashion the frame is highly-polished stainless steel with “bonded ivory” grips.
    Kimber’s Stainless II 1911-style handgun includes a full-length guide rod and a 16-pound recoil spring. In classic 38 Super fashion the frame is highly-polished stainless steel with “bonded ivory” grips.

    You don’t hear as much about the 38 Super Automatic today as you once did, with only a handful of manufacturers offering pistols chambered for this excellent pistol round. This is a shame, as the 38 Super really has a lot to offer. Providing a clear ballistic advantage over the more popular 9mm Luger and even venerable rounds such as the 45 ACP. The 38 Super is nothing new, it was developed in 1929 by John Browning for the Colt Model 1911. It is essentially the 38 Automatic (introduced in 1900 and one of the first commercially successful semiautomatic pistol cartridges) loaded to higher pressures. This is why you’ll commonly see a +P added to case headstamps, though that development didn’t appear officially until 1974. The +P designation was added to distinguish it from the lower-pressure 38 ACP. 

    The three-hole match grade aluminum trigger provided a 4.5-pound pull in the Kimber Stainless II. The handgun cycled all loads off the nine-round magazine flawlessly, despite the lack of break-in.
    The three-hole match grade aluminum trigger provided a 4.5-pound pull in the Kimber Stainless II. The handgun cycled all loads off the nine-round magazine flawlessly, despite the lack of break-in.

    Regarding power, the 38 Super sits squarely between the 357 SIG and 357 Magnum, making it a solid self-defense or light-game option. Aside from some cult-like followers, it has more recently become most popular with USPSA and IPSC shooters (U.S. Practical Shooting Association and International Practical Shooting Confederation), where a combination of flat trajectory, light recoil allowing faster recovery and an enhanced degree of energy delivery hits a sweet spot balance for those shooting disciplines. 

    The semi-rimmed 38 Super includes a slightly larger head diameter than the 9mm Luger (.406 versus .394 inch) and is .900-inch long (trim-to length .890-inch), compared to the 9mm’s maximum .754-inch length (.749-inch trim-to). Both cartridges share the .050-inch rim thickness. The 38 Super holds 18 grains of water, on average, compared to 14.5 grains for the 9mm Luger. Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) is 36,500 pounds per square inch (psi) for the 38 Super, and 35,000 psi for the 9mm Luger. This gives the 38 Super around 20 percent more muzzle energy than the 9mm Luger while shooting 124-grain bullets, translating into about 200 fps additional velocity. In most instances, the 38 Super provides greater muzzle energy than standard 45 ACP factory loads. The only downside to all of this is that the 38 Super is too long for 9mm/40 S&W pistol frames, requiring larger 45 Auto framed handguns to function. 

    All 38 Super Automatic loads were assembled using an RCBS 3-Die Carb TC Set, Group E. A taper crimp was applied to all rounds in a final and separate step after removing the seating stem.
    All 38 Super Automatic loads were assembled using an RCBS 3-Die Carb TC Set, Group E. A taper crimp was applied to all rounds in a final and separate step after removing the seating stem.

    Initially, the 38 Super Auto lived in the shadow of the 45 ACP, but it eventually became popular in places where NATO cartridges were not allowed. This was most notable in Latin American countries. Though those laws were evidently rescinded, the Latin American popularity remained. The Latin propensity for bright and flashy, I guess, explains why so many 38 Super handguns include mirror-like finishes and garish ivory grips, with some even holding inscriptions of Catholic saints, skulls, the Mexican flag and similar themes.

    On the American market, the 38 Super may have faded away completely had it not been discovered by a cadre of practical combat pistol shooters who found it ideal for that type of competition. It exceeds the power-factor threshold to meet “major” classification guidelines geared to specifically eliminate the 9mm Luger. Currently, 38 Super pistols are available through EAA Corp/Girsan, Tisas, Dan Wesson, Colt, Rock Island, Les Baer, Wilson Combat and the Kimber 1911 Stainless II used for testing here.

    Due to the waning U.S. popularity of the 38 Super, factory ammunition prices have spiked dramatically, when you can find it at all. Most 38 Super factory loads are target fodder, not dedicated hunting (Colt marketed the 38 Super as a hunting round as late as 1940) or self-defense options. This makes it an obvious handloader’s cartridge, as manufacturers such as Starline (used for this test) supply top-quality brass, and the 9mm bullets it feeds on are ultra-abundant. I was able to run 115-grain bullets up to 1,600 fps, 124-grain bullets up to 1,550 fps and 147-grain bullets to about 1,350 fps from a 5-inch barrel.

    The 38 Super Automatic (right) is shown in comparison to the 380 Auto (left) and the 9mm Luger (center) – these share the same diameter bullets.
    The 38 Super Automatic (right) is shown in comparison to the 380 Auto (left) and the 9mm Luger (center) – these share the same diameter bullets.

    Interestingly, original 38 Super pistols were generally noted for poor accuracy, as the thin rim proved inadequate for headspacing and often caused ignition issues. Later, 38 Super chambers were redesigned to headspace off the case mouth, based on the work of Irv Stone of Bar-Sto Precision Machine barrels. This immediately solved the cartridge’s shortcomings and transformed it into a round synonymous with accuracy. Like other autoloading pistol cartridges that headspace off the case mouth, a light taper crimp is used not only for proper headspacing but to hold bullets securely during recoil and to provide thorough powder ignition. During loading, I first seated bullets, and then returned to apply the taper crimp as a final step after removing the seating stem. Overall loaded lengths (OAL) of 1.175 to no more than 1.275 inches are recommended, and like other autoloading rounds, seating bullets too deeply has the potential to introduce pressure spikes. Maximum accuracy is maintained through consistent case length, .890-inch again the preferred trim-to length. 

    Shown for comparison are: (1) 380 Auto, (2) 9mm Luger, (3) 357 SIG, (4) 38 Super Automatic, (5) 38 Special and (6) 357 Magnum.
    Shown for comparison are: (1) 380 Auto, (2) 9mm Luger, (3) 357 SIG, (4) 38 Super Automatic, (5) 38 Special and (6) 357 Magnum.
    What I’ve discovered working extensively with the 10mm Auto is that high-performance semiautomatic rounds seldom provide useful pressure indications by inspecting the primers of fired cases. Even lighter loads generally reveal pancake-flat primers. Heed “recommended powder charges” carefully. Also, when loading nontoxic bullets, such as the Hammer Bullets example used in this test, always consider powder bulk density in relation to these long-for-caliber bullets to avoid severely compressing powder while meeting recommended OALs. Also, back loads off to accommodate the increased pressures generated by the longer bearing surface and resulting increases in barrel friction.

    Bullets used to test the 38 Super Automatic included: (1) Speer 90-grain Gold Dot, (2) Sierra 115-grain SportsMaster HP, (3) Rocky Mountain Reloading (RMR) 124-grain Nuke, (4) Hammer Bullets 137-grain Jack Hammer and (5) Hornady 147-grain XTP.
    Bullets used to test the 38 Super Automatic included: (1) Speer 90-grain Gold Dot, (2) Sierra 115-grain SportsMaster HP, (3) Rocky Mountain Reloading (RMR) 124-grain Nuke, (4) Hammer Bullets 137-grain Jack Hammer and (5) Hornady 147-grain XTP.
     

    Kimber’s Stainless II was used as the test vehicle, a full-sized 1911 measuring 8.7x5.25x1.28 inches and weighing 38 ounces empty. In the 38 Super, the magazine holds nine rounds, and the pistol includes a full-length guide rod and a 16-pound recoil spring. In classic 38 Super fashion, the frame is highly polished stainless steel with “bonded ivory” grips. It also includes a smooth, polished front strap and checker-cut backstrap that provides a firm grip while shooting. The slide includes matching high-polish stainless steel and front serrations. The match-grade steel barrel is 5 inches long and held by a match-grade stainless steel bushing. It includes a left-handed 1:16 rifling twist. The iron sights include front and rear white dots for positive alignment and high visibility. The aluminum trigger is a three-hole match grade design that arrives from the factory with a crisp 4- to 5-pound pull. This pistol retails for around $1,223. As a consummate 1911 fan, I give the test pistol an enthusiastic thumbs up. The overall look is just a touch kitschy for my taste, though the Kimber design comes across as more low-maintenance practical than flashy. 

    All bullets tested, except the all-copper Hammer Bullets Jack Hammer (fourth from left), included classic hollowpoint designs. All are ideal for self-defense, with the two heavier bullets also suited to hunting hog- or deer-sized game at close range.
    All bullets tested, except the all-copper Hammer Bullets Jack Hammer (fourth from left), included classic hollowpoint designs. All are ideal for self-defense, with the two heavier bullets also suited to hunting hog- or deer-sized game at close range.
    A 3-Die Carbide Taper Crimp Die Set  was supplied by RCBS for this project. All loads were trickled into a beam scale (also an RCBS product) and weighed carefully, as the relatively minute powder charges that fuel semiautomatic loads demand attention to detail to maximize accuracy. Bullets were chosen to represent a thorough mix of modern and classic 9mm/.355-caliber designs, in weights from 90 to 147 grains. All bullets were selected with self-preservation in mind, and perhaps average-sized wild hogs at the heavier end. The powders selected were simply what I had on hand, with some clear winners absent, Alliant Power Pistol, Accurate No. 5 and Hodgdon Longshot, as examples, due to the continued difficulty in securing handloading components. Fiocchi Standard small pistol primers were used throughout. 

    The Kimber Stainless II in 38 Super Automatic is a full-sized 1911 design that Patrick found rode well in his D. Johnston Alaska chest holster.
    The Kimber Stainless II in 38 Super Automatic is a full-sized 1911 design that Patrick found rode well in his D. Johnston Alaska chest holster.
    For the lightest bullet of the test, Speer’s proven 90-grain Gold Dot made an easy choice. This is a lead-core bullet with electro-plated copper jacket, which creates a jacket bond that will not separate like cup-and-core bullets often do, meaning it will stand up to the increased impact velocities of the 38 Super cartridge. The Gold Dot was engineered to meet FBI protocols for expansion and penetration, making it an ideal self-preservation option. The 90-grain Gold Dot was combined with Accurate No. 7, which sits at number 52 on a relative burn chart, Vihtavuori N340 at number 39, and Ramshot Silhouette at number 46. I deem Accurate No. 7 universally ideal for this cartridge, and especially this bullet weight. It promised top velocities from the 5-inch barrel. 

    The smallest group of the entire 38 Super test included Speer’s 90-grain Gold Dot and 6.6 grains of Vihtavuori N340. That load produced this .96-inch group, sent at 1,553 fps.
    The smallest group of the entire 38 Super test included Speer’s 90-grain Gold Dot and 6.6 grains of Vihtavuori N340. That load produced this .96-inch group, sent at 1,553 fps.
    Filling the common 9mm 115-grain slot was Sierra’s classic SportMaster JHP. This bullet was originally introduced in 1970 and then upgraded in 1983 to enhance feeding in semiautomatic pistols. This bullet’s nose radius is completely covered by the jacket to reduce hang-ups during chambering. Its skived Power Jacket and pure lead core enhance expansion at handgun velocities, while ensuring ample penetration through thick layers of clothing. The Sierra was paired with Alliant Blue Dot, which sits at number 51 on the relative burn chart, Shooters World Auto Pistol (which serves as a viable alternative to Hodgdon Longshot) at number 54, Accurate No. 5 at number 41, Ramshot Silhouette at number 46, and Vihtavuori 3N37, with a number 47 burn rate. Blue Dot, like Accurate No. 7, appears ideal for the 38 Super. 

    Rocky Mountain Reloading (RMR) supplied the 124-grain option, the MPR Nuke. RMR owner Jake Wilcox says he created this jacketed hollowpoint with self-defense in mind, including recent upgrades such as a pre-cut lead core, three internal petals and six external jacket cuts to enhance expansion while still penetrating 16 to 17 inches of ballistic gelatin and expanding to .590-inch at just 1,000 fps. It does this while providing target-grade accuracy. For this bullet, I chose Accurate No. 7, Ramshot Silhouette and Shooters World Major Pistol (which includes a burn rate similar to 38 Super ideals like Accurate No. 7 and Blue Dot). 

    The Hammer Bullets .730-inch, 137-grain nontoxic/pure-copper Jack Hammer was engineered to provide outstanding terminal performance with 100 percent weight retention. It includes a cupped nose that ensures deep, straight-line penetration and devastating soft tissue damage. The Hammer provided reliable feeding in the test pistol, the company recommending a minimum 1:23 twist rate, which was amply compatible in our case. Hammer rates this bullet for hunting as well as personal defense. Like all 100 percent copper bullets, the Jack Hammer is long for the weight, especially at 137 grains. Accordingly, powders were chosen for low bulk density to avoid severely compressed loads that have a frustrating habit of initiating creeping bullet “spring-back” and resulting feeding issues.

    Hornady’s 147-grain XTP gave its best group using 9 grains of Accurate No. 7. That group measured less than 1.5 inches and left the starting blocks at 1,386 fps. This would make an excellent close-range deer or hog load.
    Hornady’s 147-grain XTP gave its best group using 9 grains of Accurate No. 7. That group measured less than 1.5 inches and left the starting blocks at 1,386 fps. This would make an excellent close-range deer or hog load.

    Hornady’s excellent XTP jacketed hollowpoint represented the 147-grain slot. XTP stands for eXtreme Terminal Performance, and was designed for hunting, self-defense and law enforcement, while providing enough accuracy for competitive shooters. They were engineered to expand reliably at a wide range of handgun velocities and drive deep via a controlled expansion design. The jacket protects the bullet nose for reliable feeding. 

    Finally receiving a break in the early spring weather, I ventured forth to slop in the mud and get some shooting done. Shooting was conducted from atop an MTM Case-Gard Predator Shooting Rest with the rear section removed to make use of the padded wrist rest. This rest was set on a heavy portable bench. Many of the largest groups were caused by single fliers that I take responsibility for, but were recorded as shot. Recoil did not become noticeable until reaching the 147-grain mark, but even those loads were quite manageable. The Kimber consumed all of the listed loads off the magazine without a single hiccup. 

    I see huge potential in the 38 Super while shooting 147-grain slugs as potent hog medicine. For comparison, while the 10mm Auto with 180-grain bullet sent at 1,250 fps delivers 624 foot pounds of kinetic energy off the muzzle and 432 foot pounds at 100 yards, the 38 Super with 147-grain bullets leaving the muzzle at 1,350 fps produces 595 foot pounds of energy point blank and 423 foot pounds at 100 yards – which I would call close enough.

    Powders used to assemble 38 Super Auto loads included (rear, left to right) Vihtavuori N340, Alliant Blue Dot and Vihtavuori 3N37; (middle, left to right) Shooters World Auto Pistol, Major Pistol and Ultimate Pistol and Hodgdon Titegroup; and (front, left to right) Ramshot Silhouette, Accurate No. 9 and Accurate No. 7.
    Powders used to assemble 38 Super Auto loads included (rear, left to right) Vihtavuori N340, Alliant Blue Dot and Vihtavuori 3N37; (middle, left to right) Shooters World Auto Pistol, Major Pistol and Ultimate Pistol and Hodgdon Titegroup; and (front, left to right) Ramshot Silhouette, Accurate No. 9 and Accurate No. 7.

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